Persuasive communication and managing up | Wes Kao (Maven, altMBA, Section4)
A Lenny's Podcast conversation with Wes Kao, co-founder of Maven and former co-founder of the altMBA with Seth Godin, on persuasive communication, managing up, running better talks and meetings, and saying no. Sponsors named at the start: Modern Treasury and Veriff. PARTIAL COVERAGE: the available caption text is cut off partway through the section on saying no, so the end of that section and anything after it is not covered. Company details are the speakers' own claims.

Executive Summary (TL;DR)
A Lenny's Podcast conversation with Wes Kao, co-founder of Maven and former co-founder of the altMBA with Seth Godin, on persuasive communication, managing up, running better talks and meetings, and saying no. Sponsors named at the start: Modern Treasury and Veriff. PARTIAL COVERAGE: the available caption text is cut off partway through the section on saying no, so the end of that section and anything after it is not covered. Company details are the speakers' own claims.
Key Takeaways
Career path
Kao says she started at Gap headquarters, worked at a beauty company and an ad-tech company, then worked with Seth Godin to co-found the altMBA before starting Maven.